23 July 2011

Anonymous Trolls and Hack Writing

I have gotten into a stupid online confrontation with one of these anonymous commenters.
This often used to happen on this blog, several years ago. Sometimes, quite possibly, I deserved it, because I was very mouthy and insistent about my opinions. However, since it is my blog, one would think that a modicum of decorum would be observed, particularly by those who are strangers to me. After all, I am not on their doorstep, and I am not standing on the street corner shouting my opinions out until people get headaches. This is my blog. If people don't like what I write, they can always respectfully disagree, and tell me why (preferably under a real name, or at least a pseudonym). I absolutely despise dive-bombing anonymous commenters who make it their mission to discredit (at least, according to them) the person whose blog they are trying to sabotage.
In the current situation, the back-and-forth between an anonymous commenter and I is at Michael Turton's The View from Taiwan. The comments section in question is here
For one thing, it is really annoying to be told off by someone who won't even given their name (even a fake one). If they can't be held accountable, why should I be beholden to their criticism? When I see those kinds of anonymous commenters, I always get  some image in my mind of a pimply teen sitting in his mother's basement, growling at the computer screen and eating nothing but Mars Bars and drinking Coca-Cola. This is a cliche, of course. It is likely that trolls - I mean anonymous trolls - come in many forms. They probably look just like you or I.

My writing isn't perfect. I never said it was. I said my writing is very good. Of course, subtleties like these get markedly ignored by adolescents in arrested development! I have absolutely no problems with people expressing their annoyance with me. For example, if someone, whose profile or some decent, non-anonymous pseudonym writes a comment like, "@Thoth Harris It seems to me, then, that if you are going to criticize Cole's writing, then you should make sure you spelled Murakami correctly."
As you see, the comment I just wrote, critiquing myself, takes up the same amount of space, and gives the same information, but the comment is done in a respectful enough manner so as not to be badgering or attempting to discredit me (whom he doesn't even know, after all!).


My second gripe has to do with bad writing. I made a comment on The View from Taiwan (see above), which started this nitpicking about my spelling on my profile/grammar in my comments. I know I am not a perfect writer, but to me, bad writing is bad writing when someone refuses to make an effort to be clear. If there is the odd grammar structure, I will overlook the writing, because I know exactly they were trying to say. Perfecting writing means perfecting communicating, first for oneself, and then for one's audience. If you cannot understand what you wrote, you should write it again. Sometimes grammatical rules impede us. Usually, they help us, but frequently, we do get into scraps with our grammatical training, or with rules which come to light after-the-fact. I cannot stress enough, however, that clarity is the most important thing of all when writing. One would think this would be self-evident to a journalist. At least, it should be evident to someone who frequently writes journalistic articles. 

This brings me to the article I recently read, brought to my attention by the above blogpost of Michael Turton's. The English style in the article is atrocious. I will cite a few examples, and write what I would have written to make it clearer. Obviously, that is not my job. J. Michael Cole is a professional writer (among other things). He has a B.A. in English Literature! He has a Master's degree in War Studies from the Royal Military College of Canada. Considering his impressive qualifications, I am somewhat surprised, and perhaps shocked, as well, that his articles read so poorly.
Okay, where do I start. Let's start by stating the obvious. This is a very long sentence (and it takes a whole paragraph, too!). Usually, in a newspaper article, with which you are trying to economically convey information to large numbers of people, you should be brief. You should be succinct. You should get right to the point. I believe I am doing just that, right now. (Not all anonymous commenters will agree. ;))
I would have split the sentences in the paragraph up. I would write this, instead: "Just one day after newly Foreign Minister John Baird repeated Beijing's assurances that it wouldn't executed white-collar criminals, it appeared China did precisely that. It executed the two former vice-mayors, Hangzhou's Xu Maiyong, and Suzhou's Jiang Renjie, on multi-million dollar bribery charges while in office."
There. See? Wasn't that simpler? I believe it was simpler to write than that convoluted swill linked to above!

You see, however, that the second sentence is just more unreadable mishmash. Remember, this is a city newspaper, whose ideal audience is your average working stiff, be it an office worker, your regular construction worker, or an exhausted housewife (or house-husband, as the case may be). They don't have time or energy to sift through convoluted sentences. Anyway, it is extremely easy to rewrite Cole's sentence into a more manageable and readable form: "Hu's comments defy any indication that the government will do anything but brutally continue cracking down on white-collar crimes." I would leave out the reference to "threats to the CCP's legitmacy" because it is redundant, and takes us off-topic. I think you should also notice how Cole's sentences become convoluted when too many prepositions appear in a row. Particularly troublesome is when too many uses of "of" or "to" occur in the same sentence. Sometimes, when you are listing several things, you can get away with it. Cole's use of certain words and phrases is unnecessary. 

If you have the patience to continue reading these things, here's another one, from another of Cole's articles, this time in Jane's Defence Weekly and Cole's own blog, The Far Eastern Sweet Potato: "The ship was already put out at sea in November last year, with little fanfare. The announcement that it was officially launched, a splashier affair, recently, looks timed to coincide with rising tensions in the South China Sea."

Okay, at least the meaning is clear. The sentences are shorter. This is what Cole should have done for a simple Ottawa Citizen news article! But let's leave that aside for a moment and explore what's wrong.... Cole, like me, is Canadian. I have never heard another Canadian (or even British person, as far as I know), use the form, "Put out at sea." This sounds really strange to me. It might be correct, and since Cole was trained in the military, from what I gather, maybe it is military usage. I am not sure, however. Normally, I would use, "Put out to sea." You don't just leave a boat in the ocean. The use of "at" seems like "train-speak," that much-reviled, old-fashion use of language that has, particularly on British trains, recently prompted some negative reactions. "Put out to sea" seems much more natural. The worst offender in Cole's paragraph, however, has to be, "a splashier affair, recently..." If you can make head or tail of why Cole wrote it that way, I will consider sending you a ticket to Taiwan and you can exchange places with me and be an English teacher instead of me!

10 comments:

Michael Fagan said...

I read Cole's pieces regularly Thoth, and I've never had a problem in reading and understanding them.

Perhaps it's just you?

Thoth Harris said...

It's not just me, it's you, too. You pointed out his weird use uses of the word pessimism.
I never said I didn't understand what he wrote. I said his writing style makes it difficult for regular people to understand. That's why I rewrote what the above sentences, to show how convoluted his writing style is.

Michael Fagan said...

I wasn't objecting to "pessimism" as bad writing style, I was objecting to "pessimism" as an explanation of Western governments' refusal to confront the PRC over its predations against "its'" own people.

justrecently said...

I think it's legitimate to criticize other peoples' writing style - but of course, it also invites controversy. Peoples' feelings for entire lines or single idioms may differ, and that should be alright.

But to say that Cole's style was "awful" seems to go too far, in my view. I'm no native speaker of English, but I find his Ottawa Citizen article quite readable. Also, he apparently manages to get his points across in what isn't a really long article, even if his sentences may be long.

Either way, to criticize an article is perfectly OK. But when I'm someone else's critic, I need to be tolerant about people who criticize my own style, too, no matter if they are anons or not. In the end, the points in an argument should count.

James said...

'I said my writing is very good.'

It's not.

Thoth Harris said...

Oh, good, James, that gives me licence to go over to your site and drop similar two word denials to deflate your ego.
Thank you!

justrecently said...

James' comment doesn't suggest that he is a very good critic.

James said...

I disagree. Less is sometimes more.

One word review of a 'Yes' album:

'No'.

I'm hardly known for being quiet JR. If you want me to hold forth on why I think Thoth's writing is not very good, I can do that. But I know from experience (as exemplified by this post itself) what will ensue: unresolved recriminations and irrelevant ad hominem slights.

I'm not being malicious. I would never say my writing is very good. Every now and then I manage something that I look back on with a scrap of pride.

I am a professional writer, in that I am paid for what I do (not my blog). So is J. Michael Cole. Does this mean I'm any good? Obviously not.

What it does mean is that this is a craft that I take seriously and the requisite skills of which I have tried my damnednest to hone.

Thoth's dissection of JMC's sentences are silly. He could, for example, take issue with my non-sentences, conjunctions beginning sentences or my quintessentially British under-punctuation (no comma) but serious writers are immune to such puerile cant.

As a father and sometime teacher, I always encourage a firm grasp of the basics. But once this in place, one has the right to ride roughshod over the so-called rules. That is writing as an art, as opposed to simply being literate (in which sense everyone is a writer).

Funnily enough, I didn't particularly like the constructions Thoth cited but his reasons were just daft.

I work at a (crap) mag here that is geared to non-native readers and I have to keep sentences below 30 words. An old rule of journalism holds that a similar limit for intro grafs is standard.

But this is for straight news writing - and even then it is habitually disdained by any established writer. In practice, anyone saying a sentence is bad because it is too long looks like a rank dilettante - the very schoolboy Thoth implied JMC was.

Where, then, Proust? And Faulkner? Hitchens, who I think Thoth likes, is hardly short of a word or two. You may think these writers are shite. Is their shiteness prefixed on long sentences? This kind of thinking is embarrassingly facile.

And there we see I can - and do - go on and on.

I think what needles me is the way 'writing' as a craft is conflated with writing as an act. If I scribble a picture, am an artist? If I caterwaul of a Saturday night, does it make me a singer?

The advent of blogging has yielded so many boons. The emergence of a class of not particularly skilled scribes (I refer solely to writing here) calling themselves writers is not one.

Quite simply, Thoth is out of his depth attacking people like JMC. His obliviousness to this is embarrassing. I really don't mean this in a vindictive way but Thoth is just not polemically sharp enough to be sparking rows over prose styling.

To clarify: I rarely see eye to eye with Michael Fagan but I would not say this of him.

Everyone has different purposes with their blogs, a point I've discussed with My Kafkaesque Life. But having a blog doesn't make you a writer, any more than masturbating makes you a wanker.

justrecently said...

But I know from experience (as exemplified by this post itself) what will ensue: unresolved recriminations and irrelevant ad hominem slights.

That's no smart point, James. Two words of judgment can amount to the same reactions as several hundred.

If you want me to hold forth on why I think Thoth's writing is not very good, I can do that.

Yes - exactly. I don't know Thoth personally, and I don't know if that's what he wants to read, but when someone criticizes someone else's writing, it's useful to know the critic's actual issues, and to reflect on them. After all, Thoth went into some detail, too, when criticizing JMC's sentence-building. And I don't think that this has done JMC's trade any harm.

You may think these writers are shite. Is their shiteness prefixed on long sentences?

You mean, I, JR, may think that they are "shite"? That's a pretty far-fetched assumption, James.

James said...

Sorry JR - wasn't assuming anything. You've misunderstood that sentence.

I'm not saying you or anyone (which is basically how 'you' was being used here) for that matter thinks anything but if they did that I would expect a maturer analysis than 'they use long sentences'.

Also, with the first point, you're not really getting me. I'd be a bit silly to claim the force (or lack thereof) of a rebuttal hinges on its brevity.

Long posts just seem beget long posts as interlocutors trawl through them addressing every point individually. I've just noticed Thoth strays off point bringing in irrelevant strands and muddying the waters and I think there's more scope for this with long comments.

I take your point about you wanting to know my reasons but the truth is I'm not posting the comment for you and I don't see I'm really under any obligation to explain myself.

You (yes really 'you' here!) may think this makes me a crap critic but then my purpose wasn't really to present detailed analysis but to call someone out who I thought had a cheek casting aspersions at others when he would be better served getting his own house in order.

Which areas of the abode are in direst need of springcleaning was beyond the remit of that purpose.